Starting to talk about pot

Bud, chronic, skunk,mull, ganja, dak, reefer, dope, pot, maryjane.

There’s no shortage of slang for this drug, but it’s a drug not often talked about. When it is, evidence is often discarded in lieu of myth, misconception and polarized positions.

We’re talking about cannabis, New Zealand’s favourite (illicit) drug. About half of us have tried it, and one in eight uses it regularly. But for all its popularity, cannabis receives scant attention from politicians, policy makers and the media. Instead, rightly or wrongly, we’ve invested much of our attention, resources and headlines into methamphetamine and the party pill phenomenon.

It has been hugely frustrating watching hours of politicians’ time spent debating, making laws, remaking laws, promulgating regulations and ignoring regulations for party pills. Hours have been spent by officials servicing ministers and MPs all het up about these pills, and this organisation has spent hours on policy analysis, health promotion and media advocacy on party pills. Then there’s the wads of money invested in party pill research, and so on.

To put it bluntly, party pills are undeserving of so much attention, and cannabis remains largely forgotten or ignored by this 48th Parliament.

The last time Parliament touched the issue was the Health Committee inquiry into the public health strategies related to cannabis use and its most appropriate legal status. The inquiry began in 2000, but was delayed by an election. Once the new committee carried over the inquiry and reported back in 2003, the coalition agreement between the Government and United Future meant that no change could be made to the legal status of cannabis, and little action was taken on other key recommendations.

It’s time law makers remembered this popular drug and started talking about it. Ignoring it doesn’t make the harm go away. It’s also time the addiction treatment, public health and drug policy sectors and wider public talk about cannabis again.

We aim to start this national conversation with these essays in which we’ve invited leading drug policy researchers, advocates and commentators to write about cannabis law and policy. Wayne Hall outlines the challenges in formulating cannabis policy, Simon Lenton discusses how penalty regimes may be used to reduce harm and Chris Fowlie puts the case for ending prohibition. Matthew Hooten canvasses political party positions on cannabis law reform and suggests there’s little chance of liberalisation in the short term. His essay is informed by a UMR Research poll showing no public appetite for law change. Michael B shares his experience of cannabis dependence.

While legal status gets the most attention in public and political discussions, the conversation needs to be about much more than that. Future editions of Matters of Substance will address drugs in schools, addiction treatment services, youth health and health promotion, and the role of the media in advancing policy discussions.

We want everyone to take part in this conversation: We invite your comment and feedback (you can post a response to each essay online – please read our Rules of Conversation first). Go here to register. You can also join our Let's Talk About Pot e-newsletter, in which we will publish news, research, letters to the editor and other feedback.

The aim of this conversation is to:
  • provide accurate information about cannabis and its harms
  • encourage informed policy discussions and media coverage
  • identify priority issues and advance the most effective ways to address cannabis harm.

Maybe ,its why no one publicly talks about pot??

An ideal opportunity presents itself by way of this forum for talking about pot. It's widely discussed behind closed doors , usually, be it medical or social experts there is a positive acceptance for change and the matter needs revisiting urgently. With very few exceptions these expert commentators remain silent..it seems more so of late here in New Zealand than internationally . Fear of what creates the silence ???

I'm all for legalisation.

With a parent who suffers from Multiple Sclerosis, a Great-Grandmother who died of cancer and a Grandmother currently dying of cancer I am no stranger to the debate over Marajuana reform laws, and i'm all for legalisation. I have memories as a child of my Great-Grandmother and her "special biscuits" and i firmly believe that she would never have been around as long as she was without them, now my Grandmother, her daughter, has just been introduced to the effect marajuana has on cancer patients. I know personally if i was in the situation she is in at the moment I'd rather be munching back hash cookies than taking regular shots of the much nastier Morphine. My mother was a great fan of marajuana reform laws until being "busted" a few years ago, she is now too afraid to take it incase she and her wheelchair are both put in prison. I dont think it's fair that there is a natural, proven way to relieve pain and the New Zealand government finds it inapropriate to legalise. I also am under the belief that the only reason New Zealand wont legalise pot is because they cant tax it, in which case, you can tax cigarettes. Whats the difference? I'd rather the New Zealand government made tobacco illegal, look at the damage it does to peoples health!! compared with the results people recieve from taking marajuana I ask only one question. Why not legalise?

American College of Physicians Speaks Out for Medical Marijuana

I would suggest this sums up the medical cannabis aspect of the debate rather well. Not that I would expect it will get the opportunity to be a debate issue as its conclusions do not fit the agendas of those controlling the politics of cannabis in NZ.It does not focus on the rather flaky reports that creates media hype and research funding grants ......................... tony ..................................

American College of Physicians Speaks Out for Medical Marijuana In January 2008, the American College of Physicians (ACP) — the largest medical specialty organization and the second largest physician group in the United States, representing over 124,000 members — released a landmark position paper calling for legal protection for medical marijuana patients, reconsideration of marijuana’s federal classification as a Schedule I drug (banned for medical use), and expanded research.

Entitled “Supporting Research into the Therapeutic Role of Marijuana,” the paper cites extensive evidence for the clinical safety and efficacy marijuana and its active components, called cannabinoids. ACP is one of the world’s most prestigious medical societies and publishes Annals of Internal Medicine, the most widely cited medical specialty journal in the world. ACP joins the Institute of Medicine, American Public Health Association, Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, American Nurses Association, American Academy of HIV Medicine, and dozens of other medical and health organizations that support medical marijuana access. Key excerpts from the report are below.

Changing Marijuana’s Legal Status and Providing Protection for Patients

  • “A clear discord exists between the scientific community and federal legal and regulatory agencies over the medicinal value of marijuana, which impedes the expansion of research.”
  • “ACP urges review of marijuana's status as a Schedule I controlled substance and reclassification into a more appropriate schedule, given the scientific evidence regarding marijuana’s safety and efficacy in some clinical conditions.”
  • “Given marijuana’s proven efficacy at treating certain symptoms and its relatively low toxicity, reclassification would reduce barriers to research and increase availability of cannabinoid drugs to patients who have failed to respond to other treatments.”
  • “ACP strongly urges protection from criminal or civil penalties for patients who use medical marijuana as permitted under state laws.”

Marijuana’s Medical Uses

  • “Anecdotal, survey and clinical trial data suggest that smoked marijuana and oral THC provide relief of spasticity, pain and tremor in some patients with multiple sclerosis (MS), spinal cord injuries or other trauma.”
  • “Current available data suggest numerous indications for cannabinoids, especially antiemesis, appetite stimulation, and pain relief.”
  • “Clinical trials have demonstrated that both oral and smoked marijuana stimulate appetite, increase caloric intake and result in weight gain among patients experiencing HIV wasting.”
  • “For patients with AIDS or those undergoing chemotherapy, who suffer severe pain, nausea and appetite loss, cannabinoid drugs may provide symptom relief not found in any other medication.”
  • “Studies of chemotherapy patients with nausea and vomiting found THC to be equivalent or superior to other antiemetics (including prochloperazine or metoclopramide) for symptom reduction.”
  • “Research suggests that cannabinoids may have synergistic effects that may indicate its use as an adjunctive therapy to both antiemetics for nausea and vomiting and opiods for pain relief.”

Disadvantages of Oral THC (Marinol®)

  • “While useful for some, these drugs have serious limitations. The oral route of administration hampers the effectiveness of THC because of slow absorption. In addition, for patients with severe nausea and vomiting, for whom oral THC is indicated, swallowing a pill may not be feasible.”
  • “The oral, synthetic THC has low and variable bioavailability. Oral THC is slow in onset of action but produces more pronounced, and often unfavorable, psychoactive effects that last much longer than those experienced with smoking. On the other hand, smoked THC is quickly absorbed into the blood and effects experienced immediately. Studies have found that patients prefer the immediate effect on symptoms that occurs after smoking marijuana.”

Vaporization Answers Concerns Regarding Smoking

  • “The development of a vapor route for THC delivery offers promise for the future of medical marijuana research. A recent study found that THC administered through the Volcano vaporizer resulted in higher plasma THC levels compared to smoked marijuana at both 30 and 60 minutes post administration. It also found that exhaled carbon monoxide increased very little after vapor compared with smoking. ... Vaporization of THC offers the rapid onset of symptom relief without the negative effects from smoking. It allows patients to self regulate their dosage immediately by ceasing inhalation when or if psychoactive effects become unpleasant.”

Medical Marijuana and Drug Abuse (the “Gateway Theory”)

  • “Marijuana has not been proven to be the cause or even the most serious predictor of serious drug abuse. It is also important to note that the data on marijuana’s role in illicit drug use progression only pertains to its non-medical use.”

Benchmarking the Policy Base

I would just question the need to bring over the likes of Professor J. Miron . The reality is in new Zealand we actually have or have had some home grown cannabis experts over a wide spectrum of expertise.All we need is to have them given a platform to offer up this expert opinion without the current frustrations that go along with it.. For the most part those encouraged to participate in policy formation sing out of the same song book as Jim Anderton . Until this changes and we have sound evidence based and science not politics driving the cannabis policy we can expect the current situation to continue . I think under the current restraints one could line up every expert and have them give evidence , but unless there is someone who is willing and able to listen we will carry on the current harm enhancement cannabis policies.. We will continue to make people criminals with all the consequences , including medical users . tony

Why is marijuana prohibited?

We spend millions of dollars of tax payers' money punishing cannabis users with the justification that the use of cannabis is harmful to society. The first mistake here is that marijuana use does not cause harm to other individuals. Even if we argue that marijuana is harmful to the individual using it and therefore society has the burden of the health costs, we let people drink alcohol and consume tobacco, which are far more harmful. It is incredibly hypocritical to allow things which are clearly more harmful, to be exempt from prohibition if it's justification is based on this rationale.

What's more, if marijuana is really harmful (which, the weight of evidence suggests is unlikely to be the case) surely it would make more sense to take the power back from the gangs and blackmarket drug dealers so that we can tax this product to fund any necessary health bills or drug education.

If we do accept the gloomy prospect that marijuana users should be singled out and punished, all evidence clearly suggests that punishment doesn’t effectively reduce marijuana consumption. In fact, ever since Britain has stopped punishing people for possession of small amounts of marijuana, their usage rate has decreased. And in Amsterdam, where small amounts of marijuana can be purchased legally, usage rates are a third of those here in New Zealand.

It is inherently clear that prohibition of marijuana is neither effective nor ethical. Yet the latest poll probing New Zealanders’ views on the legal status of marijuana suggest that the majority of tax payers are still happy spending all their hard earned money on prohibition. Instead of putting the onus onto others to explain why marijuana users shouldn’t be punished, society should be made to explain what their reasons are for continuing to punish marijuana users.

Cannabis debate .

I have spent the last few days doing drafts of my personal experience with medical cannabis.The delete key has been working overtime.. To have any credibility , I consider it actually requires one to be prepared to be identified .Its possible to do a wishy washy , skirt round the substantive aspects that really adds nothing to the debate .. that would not attract attention .. or to offer up a comprehensive and honest personal story that content that could well attract unwanted attention . Unfortunately like so many of the others out there who have discovered the benefits medical cannabis can offer.. I am already struggling with medical complications and living constantly with stress and fear of the law.I had to figure why I kept hitting the delete key . Its not the legal consequences , I believe I have enough substantive medical evidence and legal opinion's to sway a jury .The complication is without regular medpot I would be physically and mentally unable to function and would quickly just give up maybe on life itself. Does medpot work for me.. Yes . It was its discovery a few years ago that pulled me out of a pit of pain and hopelessness and pulled me back from the brink of suicide and since then gained me a quality of life I had near given up on.. Its still at times , fragile and stress is a prime trigger to avoid.. So rather than offer up a worthy and honest contribution , I submit to my fears and say nothing of substance . Tony medpot@ihug.co.nz

Benchmarking the Policy Base

It is often said but rarely adhered to in drug policy, that to manage one needs first to measure. In order to move a constructive debate around drug policy, and in particular around cannabis we need to establish some baseline primitives. This begins and ends with a cost benefit analysis of the current protocol we call prohibition but in reality is a prohibition in name only. This needs to be accomplished and delivered at the highest level. I have previously requested that the 'budgeted for' but never used funding of $50,000 as allocated in the national drug policy strategy documents that lead up to the 1996 National Drug Policy be used to bring Professor J. Miron (Harvard School of Economics) out here to conduct in conjunction with NZ resources. While there have been some political impediments to moving this initiative forward specifically the legislative implications, they are not a good reason in of themselves to not do this "absolutely essential" work (Dr. Paul Hutchison MP [National Annual Conference, ChCh, 2006]). From this informed position then the stated aims and objectives here can be balanced to also * provide accurate information about cannabis PROHIBITION and its harms * encourage INFORMED AND BALANCED ALL DRUGS policy discussions and moving media coverage "towards resolving the tensions", knowing that nothing will satisfy everyone, there is no perfect solution, its about moving towards apolitical and unconstrained 'best practice'. * identify priority issues and advance the most effective ways to address cannabis PROHIBITION harm. ["...and then the real work begins.." - C.W. Thornton Jr. ]

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"If 25 years of smoking dope has addled my brain, I must have been an intellectual giant in my youth."
Tim Shadbolt, Author Bullshit and Jellybeans

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"Marijuana is taken by musicians. And I'm not speaking about the good musicians, but the jazz type."
Harry J. Anslinger, Federal Bureau of Marcotics, 1948

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"The nuns did not know what they were and assumed they were large decorative plants."
A police official in Athens tells of a Greek Orthodox nunnery that employed gardeners who turned out to be cannabis growers using the nunnery as their personal plantation.

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